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		<title>By: links for 2009-03-29 &#171; Sarah Hartley</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-03-29 &#171; Sarah Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Things that bug me about news: it’s in boxes &#124; The Evolving Newsroom Internet news doesn’t come in boxes. It’s always on. It’s available in myriad combinations. It’s interactive. It’s a different product for every reader. (tags: news journalism internet) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Things that bug me about news: it’s in boxes | The Evolving Newsroom Internet news doesn’t come in boxes. It’s always on. It’s available in myriad combinations. It’s interactive. It’s a different product for every reader. (tags: news journalism internet) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Starr</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Bill that media managers should stop thinking in boxes. 

Mind you, I wrote this post largely from a reader&#039;s point of view. If I were running a news site I&#039;d want plenty of content going up there every day too. News sites are hungry beasts that need constant feeding - the more you post, the more people come to see it, the more easily you can sell advertising. And there are viewing peaks - news sites get surges of visitors at around 8am, lunchtime and 5pm and they try to make sure there&#039;s plenty of content up there for those readers to keep them coming back.

The question is whether flogging journalists in a traditional newsroom is the best way to keep feeding the beast over time. Another is whether selling advertising is the best way to support the operation. 

A third is to consider how news audiences might change as more people spend more time online immersed in the sea of information that is the internet. We go to news sites for news because we&#039;re familiar with the news companies and with the concept of &#039;the news&#039;. But what about the children growing up now who will never read newspapers or watch the 6pm TV news, what will their concept of &#039;the news&#039; be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Bill that media managers should stop thinking in boxes. </p>
<p>Mind you, I wrote this post largely from a reader&#8217;s point of view. If I were running a news site I&#8217;d want plenty of content going up there every day too. News sites are hungry beasts that need constant feeding &#8211; the more you post, the more people come to see it, the more easily you can sell advertising. And there are viewing peaks &#8211; news sites get surges of visitors at around 8am, lunchtime and 5pm and they try to make sure there&#8217;s plenty of content up there for those readers to keep them coming back.</p>
<p>The question is whether flogging journalists in a traditional newsroom is the best way to keep feeding the beast over time. Another is whether selling advertising is the best way to support the operation. </p>
<p>A third is to consider how news audiences might change as more people spend more time online immersed in the sea of information that is the internet. We go to news sites for news because we&#8217;re familiar with the news companies and with the concept of &#8216;the news&#8217;. But what about the children growing up now who will never read newspapers or watch the 6pm TV news, what will their concept of &#8216;the news&#8217; be?</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Starr</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking of boxes bound by time, yes, and available space. It was just a literary device, though, a way to articulate a few thoughts. 

I know what you mean about having to work to find what you want on news sites. Did you try searching for the columnist by name? Was that any quicker? Also, do you subscribe to her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatisrss.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RSS &lt;/a&gt;feed? It&#039;s the simplest way I know of getting a particular writer&#039;s work delivered whenever a new piece appears  - delivered to your &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?hl=en&amp;nui=1&amp;service=reader&amp;continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Freader&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;feed reader&lt;/a&gt;, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking of boxes bound by time, yes, and available space. It was just a literary device, though, a way to articulate a few thoughts. </p>
<p>I know what you mean about having to work to find what you want on news sites. Did you try searching for the columnist by name? Was that any quicker? Also, do you subscribe to her <a href="http://www.whatisrss.com/" rel="nofollow">RSS </a>feed? It&#8217;s the simplest way I know of getting a particular writer&#8217;s work delivered whenever a new piece appears  &#8211; delivered to your <a href="https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?hl=en&#038;nui=1&#038;service=reader&#038;continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Freader" rel="nofollow">feed reader</a>, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: John Denney</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>John Denney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you not confusing &quot;boxes&quot; with &quot;time?&quot;

The internet is full of boxes.  Let me tell you about the &quot;unpacking&quot; I did this morning.

I wanted to read a column by a newspaper writer.  First, I went to the box called the paper&#039;s homepage. Then click to the box &quot;Columnists.&quot; Then to the box with the writer&#039;s name. Then to the box with her most recent column.

Why don&#039;t more newspapers treat columnists as separate brands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you not confusing &#8220;boxes&#8221; with &#8220;time?&#8221;</p>
<p>The internet is full of boxes.  Let me tell you about the &#8220;unpacking&#8221; I did this morning.</p>
<p>I wanted to read a column by a newspaper writer.  First, I went to the box called the paper&#8217;s homepage. Then click to the box &#8220;Columnists.&#8221; Then to the box with the writer&#8217;s name. Then to the box with her most recent column.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t more newspapers treat columnists as separate brands?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bennett</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting and thoughtful post.

You are, of course, quite right. The news doesn&#039;t come in boxes. Though oddly, journalists working on online media tend to get managed as though the boxes still exist. I know of one youngster who is expect to file a particular kind of story with a set length by a fixed time each morning. Another newsroom expects journalist to write x stories per day and (lord have mercy on their wicked souls) &quot;process&quot; x press releases.

Perhaps media managers need to stop thinking in boxes too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting and thoughtful post.</p>
<p>You are, of course, quite right. The news doesn&#8217;t come in boxes. Though oddly, journalists working on online media tend to get managed as though the boxes still exist. I know of one youngster who is expect to file a particular kind of story with a set length by a fixed time each morning. Another newsroom expects journalist to write x stories per day and (lord have mercy on their wicked souls) &#8220;process&#8221; x press releases.</p>
<p>Perhaps media managers need to stop thinking in boxes too.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Starr</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! This is just one angle on the big picture that is news and information, but it&#039;s been rankling with me for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! This is just one angle on the big picture that is news and information, but it&#8217;s been rankling with me for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post!  Thank you.

I generally stay clear of newspapers, tv or radio news. I just can&#039;t be bothered.  And your explanation about having to fill the boxes just made me realise what it is I avoid: pointless stories about crime and disasters and misery...

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post!  Thank you.</p>
<p>I generally stay clear of newspapers, tv or radio news. I just can&#8217;t be bothered.  And your explanation about having to fill the boxes just made me realise what it is I avoid: pointless stories about crime and disasters and misery&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Starr</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you Fiona. I&#039;d like to see more grassroots newsgathering too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you Fiona. I&#8217;d like to see more grassroots newsgathering too.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Leonard</title>
		<link>http://evolvingnewsroom.co.nz/things-that-bug-me-about-news-its-in-boxes/comment-page-1#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nor do journalists come in boxes any more. Over the last few years we&#039;ve seen newspapers rationalise their reporting capacity and rely more and more on wire services and other people&#039;s reporting. Journalists have become synthesisers rather than gathers of raw information.

Perhaps rationalising the machinery of news production will allow for a return to what news should be about - the collection of information and analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor do journalists come in boxes any more. Over the last few years we&#8217;ve seen newspapers rationalise their reporting capacity and rely more and more on wire services and other people&#8217;s reporting. Journalists have become synthesisers rather than gathers of raw information.</p>
<p>Perhaps rationalising the machinery of news production will allow for a return to what news should be about &#8211; the collection of information and analysis.</p>
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